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Author Topic: What is it about the Puget Sound area?  (Read 1416 times)
Keith Dahlgren
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« on: December 07, 2005, 09:25:03 AM »

Okay, it's me again, noodgy as usual. 

I have spent most of my theatre life (one could hardly call it a career, maybe a careen) in the Puget Sound area. I confess my ignorance and provincialism.  I have been told by fellow theateers who have spent time elsewhere that this area is wonderful when it comes to lots of theatre, but terrible when it comes to making a living (as opposed to other cities.)  Is this true?

Do we have fewer 'professional' (i.e., AEA signatory) theatres here in Pugetopolis than elsewhere in the country?  I have been told that in Atlanta there are a couple dozen.  Is this true?  New York I can see, but elsewhere?

And of course the question becomes, why? 

I am aware that the local Equity Liaison folks are working on new types of contracts for this area. I'm more thinking of the question, why is it like this?  Is there something about the economy that doesn't allow us to pay the wages? Is the support of the Arts worse here?  Are the audiences smaller or less willing to pay the ticket prices?  Is the arts support, in terms of granting and gifting, less, or unevenly distributed?  Are more artists willing to work for less? (I'm probably in that category...I just want to get out there.) Is there something in the water?

I'm thinking about this in the wake of the Exchange Theatre organization being unable to survive.  Normally, I'm a bit passive when it comes to this sort of thing.  It's a dog-eat-dog world out there.  If there's something wrong with the choices of shows that are presented, or the quality, or the management of the budget, or whatever internal thing that could go wrong and does, oh, well. Hard cheese. It's a business.  But when someone mentioned other places being more available to 'professional' actors, I began to wonder.  Is it us?

I know that the smaller organizations are just fleabites when it comes to the Big Houses, but I think that that's where a lot of the action is, in terms of practicing craft, developing chops, and otherwise making a small buck to support one's paycheck.

I'm just curious.  Any thoughts?  Other than, "shut up, Keith!", I mean.
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2005, 04:26:59 PM »

Keith, I would never tell you to shut up.  I might send an incendiary email my cadre of frighten minions, ordering them to spam the heck outa'ya, but that's a whole 'nother thing.
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I was just sitting here at my computer, being beaten into submission by all the Christmas music from the radio (...how I wish I could find a few snappy Kwaanza Carols sometime...) and I had to respond; not being able to take another Andy Williams holiday offering.

So what I think is that there could be more professional (using your definition) companies in this area but I simply don't think anyone is willing to take the financial risk that entails.  The status quo of putting it together with mostly volunteer labor and covering folks with "travel reimbursement stipends" has become the comfortable producing model for so many years that most everyone is reluctant to take the next step.  There are exceptions of course, but that's my take.

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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2005, 11:48:22 AM »


Do we have fewer 'professional' (i.e., AEA signatory) theatres here in Pugetopolis than elsewhere in the country?  I have been told that in Atlanta there are a couple dozen.  Is this true?  New York I can see, but elsewhere?

Keith,

I did a bit of research, and in fact, using Atlanta as an example, there are far more "professional" companies in the Seattle area, if you include all those that use Letter Of Agreement (LOA), Guest Artist (GA) and Special Appearance (SA) contracts, that is, those that only occasionally use Equity performers, along with the more formal signatories.  Based on this we have a 14:23 ratio in our favor; using only the bigger contracts as a baseline it's a 1:2 ratio, which is actually a little better than one would expect given the relative populations of the two cities (420,000 and 560,000 respectively).

But, when I do a similar comparison of Seattle versus Los Angeles, for example, we still come out pretty good.  I didn't count up every single one of the smaller contracts in LA (i.e. the one-offs I mentioned above), which literally come to scores, but for example there are six LORT theatres in the Greater LA Area (not including San Diego, Palm Springs, Costa Mesa, etc.) to our three; eight TYA's (i.e. Seattle Childrens' Theatre) to our one; three WCLO's to our two; and exactly the same number of Small Professional Theatres (SPT), and these numbers include the Greater LA Area, not just those within the city limits.  So, with roughly six and a-half times the population, LA proper actually has far fewer professional companies per-capita than we do. 

And continuing with the LA/Seattle comparison, a lot of the smaller companies down there fall into the dreaded "99 Seat" or "showcase" theatres, that is, companies where compensation is waived in exchange for providing union members with opportunities to be seen by casting directors and other people who presumably will be able to offer them future employment. 

I get asked - a lot - why Seattle doesn't have such an exemption, and the simple answer is: "who in this town that can get you jobs CAN'T see you at an audition?"  99% of the "future employment" we're talking about in LA is in the film/TV industry, not live theatre, so there's just no economic justification for Equity members here to be giving away their labor.  You mentioned how hard it is to make a living in this town, well the truth is, it's hard to make a living in this industry in ANY town, even the major media centers such as LA, NY or CHI.  Yes, there are a lot more opportunities to work in those cities, but it's offset by the concurrently larger numbers of people looking for work; more jobs=more competition.

This should help put things in perspective:  According to the latest figures available from Equity, there are just under 16,000 active members in the New York area, accounting for about 64% of the total members in the Eastern Region, and 40% of all active members nation-wide.  LA has about half that many (around 7,500) members, but there are only around 11,000 total in the West, so they account for a far larger percentage in this region.  Seattle has 400 active members, ranking us 9th nationally among major cities, so given the number of signatory companies here, and the number of overall employment opportunities, things are, as you've been told Keith, pretty darned good, all things considered.
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2005, 02:39:30 PM »

Keith,
I don't think it's the Puget Sound area.  I've lived in 3 other cities, cities with a certain degree of theater life.  Not many of my friends can make a living soley doing plays.  Those that do act for a living, also do the voiceover or commercial to pay the bills, or even teach classes.  And most of those friends only have themselves to care for, no mortgages or children.  I don't know if that was your question exactly.

I think there are lots of theaters here, lots of smallish ones, and a handful of larger Equity houses.  What is needed and lacking is a strong theater-going public, but that's probably another discussion I shouldn't embark on given we just closed up shop on Exchange this week!
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2005, 09:26:20 AM »

Here's a very interesting and provocative article from this week's LA Weekly, that should provide further grist for the mill:

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/06/03/theater-morris.php
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